marjan15 Says:

Sep 11, 2008 - Ok, here we agree. Now show me at least one research that shows that solar panels pay back in less than 5 years. Remember that you have to count all sources needed to develop and actually manufacture it. And if government gives money to such companies, you have to count that too. Also efficiency in real environment is *far* lower than manufacturer says it is.

ctrlshifttab Says:

Sep 11, 2008 - LOUD NOISES in comments! But video is very quiet.

Mamsecks Says:

Sep 11, 2008 - I don't have to, since there's no point on doing so. It's not the same to put a solar panel in the desert of Sahara than to put it in the north pole (obviously). So, the beginning of the discussion was Google's solar panels, which you considered would give pay back in 100 years. If I showed you a study for the hottest place on Earth, it would be meaningless, as it is the Google offices' locations what matter. Those studies are in hand of Google, not mine.

elpresidio Says:

Sep 11, 2008 - Excellent!

bubert124 Says:

Sep 11, 2008 - damn long video

Zerie Says:

Sep 11, 2008 - the important videos that google posts tends to be long

underverser Says:

Sep 12, 2008 - Google intends to share any intelligence together! (p)

abdulnafie Says:

Sep 12, 2008 - its b'coz they own youtube and probably the internet!

perkoke Says:

Sep 13, 2008 - Google will be the new Hitler.

ezules Says:

Sep 13, 2008 - Let's say you're right, can you please tell me what is your receipt for peak oil? Aren't renewable energy sources (wind, geothermic, solar -not only fv-, biomasses, natural gasses from non-food sources) the only way to save our "ACTUAL" style of life that permits 6 bilion people to live on this planet? If we don't invest in research and development NOW, how do you think we can survive the end of cheap oil? [Please respect yourself and don't say a ridiculous think as Hydrogen...]

hprof1 Says:

Sep 13, 2008 - Google Google Google !

BySplaindert Says:

Sep 14, 2008 - Google! Yeah!

maan100283 Says:

Sep 17, 2008 - The paradox is that the docu you're referring to is a swindle itself. Remember the solar radiation vs temperature graph, it only goes as far as the 1980s. Why did they do that, the data was available at that time! What the data since the 80s shows is that while the sun's radiation levels out, the temperature goes up, up and up... And that would disprove the radiation theory the program tries to put forward, and only fits with manmade global warming.

maan100283 Says:

Sep 17, 2008 - Oh, was meant as a reply to marjan15. Anyways, you can check the graph for yourself if you do a google image search with: max planck solar research climate.gif

DissMasterTupac Says:

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DissMasterTupac Says:

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dhwgsg99 Says:

Sep 21, 2008 - I hope obama saw this

marjan15 Says:

Sep 22, 2008 - Last seven years global troposphere temperature is dropping. This might be called global cooling. ( friendsofscience org )

maan100283 Says:

Sep 22, 2008 - Your quoting a source that's funded by oil companies ( sourcewatch org/index.php ?title=Friends_of_Science ) and that is using uncorrected UAH MSU satellite data. One of the researchers of that project, Roy Spencer, was on Earth: The Climate Wars (eps 2), telling that the data was faulty. The satellites orbit was not correctly calculated, when corrected the data is the same as ground measurements. You can look up the really interesting serie at the pirate bay (search climate wars)

marjan15 Says:

Sep 22, 2008 - The source of measurements is MSU satellite [ATMOS UAH, MSFC NASA] which clearly shows temperature drop in last couple of years. You can do as many corrections as you want on those measurements, but you can not deny obvious temperature drop.

maan100283 Says:

Sep 22, 2008 - Strange you cite UAH data, since on their website they say their satellite data confirms global warming and actions should be taken to decrease CO2 output: google uah News climatebackground

marjan15 Says:

Sep 23, 2008 - The graphs are very clear about global temperature. Why is it so hard to believe for most of people that global temperature is dropping last couple of years?

maan100283 Says:

Sep 23, 2008 - "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." If the graph is so clear, why aren't even the authors of the graph convinced? If you have any degree in science you know that figures themself mean nothing unless you know how they came about, how they fit in the rest and what they tell in the big picture. Satellites' raw data tells nothing if you didn't calculate the effects of friction on the satellite. That's what happened at UAH. Google dn11660, it is all about this graph.

marjan15 Says:

Sep 23, 2008 - According to some there will always be something wrong with measurements that shows temperature drop, even if it's the most precise satellite measurements humanity ever built. [Al Gore, hockey stick graphs, CO2 causing GW, Kyoto...] It's becoming dogmatic religion this GW hype. It's not science anymore, it's politics thanks to Al Gore and people alike.

vritaimo Says:

Oct 3, 2008 - did you know tha portugal has first electric cars out into the public selling in 2010 , at about 14.000 usd . 2000 daily production. does not pay parking " it has special conditions " why does u.s.a not have this option as a such advanced country " wake up , you are getting behind in eco systems .