Added: Sep 18, 2006
From: malva78
Duration: 3:53
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau cantando Canciones a la muerte de los niños de Gustav Mahler, dirige Lorin Maazel
Channel: Music
Tags: dietrich fischer-dieskau kindertotenlieder lorin maazel mahler
Rating: 4.84 (88 ratings) Views: 41033' favoriteCount='257 Comments: 25
sanjosemike Says:
Feb 6, 2008 - You don't get it. Mahler himself was a converted Jew, because he saw no "future" for a Jew in music in Germany. I'm not criticizing Mahler. What I am saying, and I'll say it again is: "The guilt of the German people for the Holocaust will last for 1,000 years." If you're German, get used to it. And whether you like it or not, everywhere you go, people are thinking about it when you tell them where you're from... sanjosemike
raelyz Says:
Feb 8, 2008 - Muchas gracias por el vÃdeo. Hispanohablante muy agradecido.
divadivo84 Says:
Feb 12, 2008 - I have never heard such uneducated comments as the nonsense you are putting up sanjosemike. Don't you dare tarnish this music, Mahler was a bent man but a genius none the less and anyone whose..well..anyone knows why he wrote this piece...Music History 2nd year my friend. read up.
macpaz Says:
Feb 17, 2008 - lol you are the dumbest piece of shit I've seen in world history... I'm black and I live in Germany and nobody asks me shit about Nazis when I'm in the U.S. so take ur stupid moronic generalizations and shove them right up your ass where they came from, idiot. Every country has a certain war record. Look what Americans did to the natives. Look what they did in Japan, in Vietnam, Cuba.. Do you think this is something I think about when meeting an American in my country? Whatever, you're retarded
FlowerElectronics Says:
Mar 1, 2008 - So, even when everyone in any way RELATED to "the holocaust", as if that was in any way worse than any other genocide or atrocity of war, are dead - the children of German will still be "guilty"...? That's not going to happen. What IS already happening, is that YOUR fellow jews are murdering children TODAY. What about that? Do YOU feel guilty, as a jew? If not, why hell should a German, born decades after the war ended? The world is growing inpatient with the RACISM of jews and Israel.
sanjosemike Says:
Mar 1, 2008 - FlowerElectronics, don't believe the BS from the Palestinians. The Jews lived in the ME for 3200 years, at least 1,000 years prior to any tribes that called themselves Muslims. Israel exists because of that fact, not the Holocaust. 99% of the BS from the Palestinians didn't happen, and I can prove it. sanjosemike
sanjosemike Says:
Mar 1, 2008 - FlowerElectronics: Read: History Upside Down: The Roots of Palestinian Fascism and the Myth of Israeli Agression--David Meir Levi It's time for you to hear the truth from a recognized academic historian. The "charges" from Palestinians would be horrible if they were true. With the exception of Dier Yassin, they are almost entirely lies. sanjosemike
sanjosemike Says:
Mar 1, 2008 - FlowerElectronics said: " the children of German will still be "guilty"...? I understand your discomfort with that, particularly if you are German. There are still places all throughout Europe and the West where Germans (even young ones) are detested. I agree it may not be fair, but it is a fact. You are fighting the verdict of history. No matter what you say, that history will bear against the German people. sanjosemike
FlowerElectronics Says:
Mar 2, 2008 - "99% of the BS from the Palestinians didn't happen, and I can prove it." There you go sounding like the nazis again. But by all means, prove it. Prove that 99% of what the Palestinians say are happening is a lie.
sanjosemike Says:
Mar 2, 2008 - When the Arabs attacked in 1948, the Jews begged Palestinians to stay. Arabs told the Palestinians that "the Jews would be pushed into the sea." I am willing to admit that in Dier Yassin, the Jews did kill some unarmed Palestinians. It should not have happened, but honesty compels me to admit it. But this event, while terrible, does not mean that Jews stole the land. Jews lived there for over 3200 years. That said, reparations are DUE to Palestinians for lost properties. sanjosemike
mopplFL Says:
Mar 5, 2008 - Then we are all guilty, sanjosemike. Every Nation has blood on its hand, the Germans, the Russians (Stalin), USA (Hiroshima, Vietnam), France, Spain, Britain (colonization) and so on. How long will you point with your finger at others, instead of give them your hand. Thinking like yours produces prejudices, fear and hate. That doesn`t make a helpful contribute to international understanding.
sanjosemike Says:
Mar 5, 2008 - moddlFL: Sorry, I can't agree. Dier Yassin, while regrettable, does not compare to the Holocaust. I am also aware of other stupid mistakes made by Israel, and I also regret them. Jews lived in the ME for 4000 years. They have a right and an obligation to defend themselves. The weight of the Holocaust remains enormous against Germany. I too am sad for young Germans, who had no part in it. sanjosemike
Heshvan5699 Says:
Apr 14, 2008 - Mahler's niece, Alma Rosé, directed the women's orchestra in Auschwitz. Her father, Arnold Rosé, was a famous violinist and a friend of Mahler. She was poisened in Auschwitz. As for Mahler and the Germans, once he said: "I am a stranger everywhere. In Austria as a Bohemian, in Germany as an Austrian and in the whole world as a Jew." It is true, that his symphonies have something of a prophecy of the terrible shoa. Imagine, if he had still lived in 1940/45! He would have been killed in a camp!
Heshvan5699 Says:
Apr 14, 2008 - Mahler was: 1. Austrian 2. Jew His sister Justine's daughter died in Auschwitz. Her father Rosé was a Jew. His daughter had to flee to Canada and was a British subject. When she wrote me a letter in 1984 she lived in Italy. Did Mahler forget to ask for a "ANTI-Arierausweis"? You should read comments to videos like "Bombs on Dresden". Nazis, not only Germans, but Americans, French and UK, wrote me threatening things on my Channels because I'm GERMAN antinazist. Had to change my nicks often.
Heshvan5699 Says:
Apr 15, 2008 - If you look at the comments to certain videos (war, especially air war, holocaust, Hitler Youth etc.) one can say that the majority of all these holocaust deniers and Hitler fans are NOT Germans. It is so frustrating to read postings from young Dutch, American, English, Canadian and even Polish and Russian boys who write: Hitler is our savior! I had to change my nick name several times because they threatened me on my channel. I know what Nazism was. I was a child under Hitler, I am a German.
Heshvan5699 Says:
Apr 15, 2008 - When I wrote that the Nazi General Göring ordered the bombing of the German city of Freiburg on May 10, 1940, to have a pretence for bombing Rotterdam and Coventry, posters from Holland, France, Britain and USA called me e Communist lier. My Grandfather lost his brother in this "friendly fire". Of course, saying these facts under Hitler regime would have meant Death! My Grandfathers often feared that Hitler would launch a similar attack with gas bombs. They didn't know that I was listening!
Heshvan5699 Says:
Apr 15, 2008 - Now will the sun as brightly rise As though no evil befell last night! The evil befell just me alone; The sun, it shines for all alike! You must not enfold the night within you, Must in the eternal light immerse it! A lamp has gone out in my abode! Hail to the whole world's gladdening light!
Heshvan5699 Says:
Apr 15, 2008 - I can understand your grief! I have lost my Father in the Nazi War when I was 11 years old. Sometimes I'm afraid to get crazy when I read the comments of young pro-Nazis of different nations. But it's the music of Mahler that gives me consolation. I could advice you to read the book "Mahler" by the Jewish philosopher Adorno. The British composer Deryck Cooke has written a book about Mahler with all the texts of Mahler's songs in English. I'll bring the text of the first Kindertotenlied in E.
sanjosemike Says:
Apr 15, 2008 - Heshvan5699: Thank you for your heartfelt posts. Without question, Hitler was a DISASTER for all Germans. It is a pity that he was voted into power by (at the time) legitimate means. I don't know if your father or Grandfather's family voted to help put him into office or not...at the time, most Germans also felt that Hitler was the "savior" of "Greater" Germany. Hitler also ordered the euthanasia of injured GERMAN soldiers. His evil was all-encompassing. sanjosemike
wartburg88 Says:
May 2, 2008 - For me, there is simply no better Lieder interpreter than DFG. He is one of my top vocal heroes. The stoic passion that flows through his voice richly conveys the pathos of these Mahler pieces.
zamolxis7 Says:
May 14, 2008 - Those beautiful eyes!
eimstudent Says:
Jun 24, 2008 - I don't know why such beautiful music makes people think so much about politics... Thanks for posting this, I suddenly really wanted to hear it and here it was, so sad and sublime. Ah, the wonders of Youtube (and Mahler, and Fischer-Dieskau)!
pasfresh123 Says:
Aug 24, 2008 - why is there so much distortion, so much screeching, like a radio that isn't quite on the channel.
cybilsharp Says:
Sep 21, 2008 - Rather sad to see all this stuff about people living now being somehow guilty for what their grandparents did... The great thing about Mahler - and DFD - is that their emotions are universal and the music shows how limiting any sense of racist superiority is. Let us just enjoy hearing a great German (DFD) singing the music of an even greater German (Gustav)....
achinghunger15 Says:
Feb 5, 2008 - And what does that have to do with music. Just because he's German. I'm sorry but thats rediculous and shouldn't be brought up here. We are here to listen to music, not to discriminate against the composers because of their nationality