Added: Jan 6, 2006

From: theblur

Duration: 117:10

Ken Miller's talk on Intelligent Design at Case Western University. Ken Miller basically rips Intelligent Design apart in a 2 hour long exposé of the claims of intelligent design and the tactics that creationists employ to get it shoehorned into the American school system.

Channel: Howto

Tags: biology  design  evolution  intelligent  politics  religion 


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HISTRUTHBEKNOWN Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - 2 of 2 It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.

Renfield37 Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - ive been nothing but correct, but all you had to do was admit your failure anyway

HISTRUTHBEKNOWN Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - wikdreans "u invoke God unnecessarily, & quote from any obsolete or untrustworthy sources that fits your argument, & nothing from a peer-reviewed, recognized scientific journal." Any evolutionary material from so-called scientists are meaningless, regardless of a peer review. Darwin's peers rejected Darwinism/Evil-ution. You are the one posting irrelevant material such as the Urey-Miller failed experiment, which was fraudulent and not naturalistic. You rant about old disproved icons of Evo.

HISTRUTHBEKNOWN Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - You have been told not to respond to my comments since all you do is post lies & unintelligent flippant responses. You are ignorant of Abiogenesis, formerly known as Spontaneous Generation, which is the clever deception by Thomas Huxley to help poor boy Darwin & his vacuous tautologies & lame stories that hand wave the falsifying evidence away. The so-called common ancestor of all at the root of the evolutionary tree of live is your supposed simple cell that popped into existence naturaly.duh

HISTRUTHBEKNOWN Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - ebbola23410 "Then enlighten me. How is it posssible that the Israelite population went from seventy (Ex.1:5) to several million (over 600,000 adult males) in just a few generations! (Numbers 1:45-46 )." What is a generation now versus then? How large were families then versus now? How many child bearing years then versus now? How many wives, mistresses then versus now? It's not unreasonable at all. Read below for the details. ldolphin . org/alanm/abrexo . html

HISTRUTHBEKNOWN Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - This is all idle gibberish. Do you have a point. Saint Augustine does not speak for me, God, or replace the Bible.

HISTRUTHBEKNOWN Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - BMSRoyBasch"People who are CONVINCED of evolution examine the evidence critically & decide for themselves if this is a solid theory or not. Is this irrational,ignorance,prideful or arrogant?" All of the above & a Lie! There is no evidence to critically analyse for Darwinism/EVO. It never had a start & never happened from pond scum to you. Mythical Magical Brainless Materialistic Naturalism did not cause the genesis of a supposed simple cell or to transmute it into everything that ever lived.

HISTRUTHBEKNOWN Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - BMSRoyBasch "..the essence of faith is, by definition, the belief in something with no logical proof. ..taking every parable in the Bible as literal truth also a bit irrational ..?" Biblical faith is in God's word which is logical, testable, & trustworthy. Darwinism is a believe is a fairy tale about human notions of brainless purposeless mother nature making life from chemicals & transmuting it into everything else. Parables are not literal! Only the Parable teller can decipher its meaning.

HISTRUTHBEKNOWN Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - MrPingPongBrain1000 "UK resident & bemused by creationism ... In basic terms the second law of thermodynamics is that "in a closed system, all things tend towards entropy". Creationists misinterpret the 2nd law to say that things invariably progress from order to disorder. Ignoring the key part of the rule "A CLOSED SYSTEM". They neglect the fact that life is not a closed system. We are powered by the sun." MORON! Read ldolphin . org/mystery/ SLoT applies to open & closed & doesn't help!

HISTRUTHBEKNOWN Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - to ebola23410: Stop with the just-so-stories such as "Design is not the beginning but an endpoint from random mutations and selection pressure caused by enviroment and sexual pressure." These are empty words that are not supported by the empirical evidence. Darwinism/Evil-ution never had a start & never happened from a supposed simple cell that popped into existence & then transmuted into everything that ever lived. This is a mythical event that is unfalsifiable. Stop hijacking evidence for EVO

alliancesigns Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - Man! so many people in YT already give many evidences for Evolution already. Give up already, your nonsenses ain't fooling anybody, you are now just trolling

HISTRUTHBEKNOWN Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - alliancesigns "Man! so many people in YT already give many evidences for Evolution already. Give up already, your nonsenses ain't fooling anybody, you are now just trolling" Story telling on YT is not evidence. There is no evidence that brainless purposeless mythical magical materialistic naturalism cause the genesis of the supposed simple cell or transmuted it into everything that ever lived. This is a ridiculous human notion that is superstitious & unfalsifiable. PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

HISTRUTHBEKNOWN Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - TheLyingProf1988 "Since when have I espoused spontaneous generation? I wonder about how life came about conforming to all natural laws, I seek an explanation for life without magic. Magic is not a satisfactory explanation." You blindly believe the mythical magical brainless materialistic naturalism caused life to spontaneously generate like a good little Darwinist, and that it then transmuted into everything that ever lived. Is this a satisfactory explanation to you? This is a mythical event!

ebola23410 Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - Show me the empricial evidence that what I said was not supported. Lizards left on Croatian islands during the War of Independencce develop cecal valves to adapt to the enviroment. E coli after passaging for many generations in citrate media develop genes to break down citrate

HISTRUTHBEKNOWN Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - ebola23410 "Show me the empricial evidence that what I said was not supported. Lizards left on Croatian islands during the War of Independencce develop cecal valves to adapt to the enviroment. E coli after passaging for many generations in citrate media develop genes to break down citrate" What does any observation have to do with Darwinism/Evolution that never had a start & never happened? Mutations cause a loss of information, are deleterious, cause mutations/mistakes etc. This is not EVO.

ebola23410 Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - Mutations add information. Nylon digesting bug is an example. Also, there are such things as reverse mutations like in the Ames test. Take a mutation f(x) that changes a reading frame into a non reading frame by a substitution and "loss of information". A reverse mutation f-1(x) will revert the mutation and "gain information"

ebola23410 Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - taken literally the total number involved, the 600,000 "fighting men" plus wives, children, the elderly, and the "mixed multitude," would have been two million or more, equivalent to something between half and almost the entire Egyptian population of around 3-6 million. The loss of such a huge proportion of the population would have caused havoc to the Egyptian economy, yet no such effect has been discovered.

ebola23410 Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - Archaeological research has found no evidence that the Sinai desert ever hosted, or could have hosted, millions of people, nor of a massive population increase in Canaan, estimated to have had a population of between 50,000 and 100,000, at the end of the march. The logistics involved also present problems: Eric Cline, points out that 2.5 million people marching ten abreast would form a line 150 miles long, without accounting for livestock.

BMSRoyBasch Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - How can it be all of the above? Natural Selection is observable. Mutations have been observed. Speciation has been observed. All of this is illogical? Our lowly origins from something simple to something more complicated. How is this arrogant? Observing evidence is ignorant? Evidence does exist, claiming that it doesn't won't make it go away.

wildreams Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - Obviously, you have a poor understanding on thermodynamics and the implications it have in describing behaviour of a closed system vs an open system. And there is nothihg we can say to make u understand. U need to go back to school.

wildreams Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - So u disagree with him? U don't think me make sense? U think he contradicted the Bible in making a statement like that?

wildreams Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - Obviously u still have confusion between Evolution and Abiogenesis and Spontaneous Generation o.O And i don't think Thomas Huxley has anything to do with Abiogenesis again. Please, we are trying to help u understand the difference, please take a minute to ponder.

wildreams Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - i meant "he made" not "me make"

wildreams Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - When the theory of evolution arises, it assumes that when an organism gave birth to the next generation. Traits are inherited, and in addition to inherited traits, there must be room for the emergence of new traits not found in previous generation. Genetic discovery of random mutation and genetic heredity indirectly proven in detail how these can occur. Correctly fulfilling a prediction of Evolution. The observation he states showed Evolution in action, how organisms changed after

wildreams Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - many generations so as to better survived in a new environment.