sickpigrecords Says:

Jul 3, 2008 - and there may also be a way of using a catalist to change it to somthin non carcinogenic but then again chared food is supposed to be a carcinogen if i get cancer or my liver packs up i will be blaming it on my rampant lifestyle

ZeroFossilFuel Says:

Jul 4, 2008 - Good point. If not convert, at least stabalize for safe disposal.

Philldapill85 Says:

Jul 8, 2008 - Fool. The reason the resistance changes in the beginning, is because when measuring resistance, the meter is applying a small voltage. This voltage produces a small current, which causes chemical changes on the plates. The chemical changes make the reading increase, then when you reverse, you get the opposite effect. Go to school. Learn some real stuff about it and then tinker in your garage.

Philldapill85 Says:

Jul 8, 2008 - Here is an easy way to measure capacitance... Apply a voltage to the "capacitor". Read the voltage on the cap, then remove the voltage source. What happens to the voltage? It should slowly decrease for a REAL capacitor. A good cap will hold it's charge for a LONG time. If you put a parallel resistor across the terminals, the voltage will drop as a function of Euler's number, "e". If you want to know the capacitance, you can solve for it by measuring the time it takes to reduce by half.

ZeroFossilFuel Says:

Jul 8, 2008 - Trouble is the discharge curve is not linear. There is an avalanche breakdown of the water dielectric that occurs around 2v.

Philldapill85 Says:

Jul 9, 2008 - Exactly my point. The discharge curve is non-linear... a exponential function of e. I don't know what kind of education you have, but basically, it's a simple RC constant. Simply put, the voltage at any given time(t), will be V(t) = V(initial) / e^(t/RC) as the capacitor discharges. It's a non-linear curve. That's basic electricity theory. If you know some algebra, you can solve for RC. Do an expirement and measure the initial voltage, and measure the voltage again at specific time intervals.

Philldapill85 Says:

Jul 9, 2008 - Titanium is almost as bad as plain iron. It oxidizes very quickly and becomes unuseable very fast. Try bronze or brass flashing. The stuff isn't toxic and lasts a good bit of time.

Philldapill85 Says:

Jul 9, 2008 - "dude"... I'm not one to bash on hydrogen production - it's clean and abundant. The only problem is the energy source needed to make it. The hydrogen is simply the fuel - a carrier for energy. It's not the energy source. Playing around in your garage trying to make some silly "resonant" circuit out of this stuff is a total waste of time. I wish people that are interested in this sort of thing would go to school, get a degree, and provide some REAL help to solving the energy problem. Until then..

sickpigrecords Says:

Jul 12, 2008 - i am doing a degree next year i am on a levels at the moment and all seems to be going well but it is most stupid to think we know it all or even a fraction about what there is to know about energy and energy extaction as well as physics and chemistry the laws are just theorys just very good ones and could have some details wrong einstine wasnt shure when it came to a few things like zero point energy he just needed more time. we have the quantum world to play with now an little is known fact

Philldapill85 Says:

Jul 12, 2008 - I agree that it is stupid to act as if humanity knows everything about the physical world. However, if you are trying to draw upon that and use it to show that maybe this whole resonance thing DOES have some merit, then show it, I urge you. I don't like the whole resonance idea about splitting water because simply put, the resonating nature of the makeshift capacitor and inductor have NOTHING to do with the water and viseversa. Yes, the water acts as a crappy dielectric but what I said holds.

tinkertom2118 Says:

Jul 22, 2008 - yeh! nice

BlackIronBear Says:

Sep 14, 2008 - Wow...the depth of your ignorance truly knows no bounds. Tell you what...why dont YOU go get a degree instead of whining like a puppy locked in the garage...until then...;)

BlackIronBear Says:

Sep 14, 2008 - that comment was for Philldapill85, by the way. Just in case there is any doubt.

mexiputah Says:

Sep 16, 2008 - dont know what you guys are talking about ..I just need a device to install on my truck and thats it....I am a consumer full stop.

1freedomfighter1 Says:

Sep 20, 2008 - And the text books know all right. why don't you work on the stuff before you open your trap. go look up browns gas that has been on the market for over 25 years and implodes as well as you can hold your hand 4 inches away from where you are burning a hole threw brick. every thing you have said is your opinion and nothing more. Stop riding coat tales of 100 year old books that are full of deliberate lies and false information. I have seen weight loss with this technology as well as transmutation

1freedomfighter1 Says:

Sep 20, 2008 - Great work. I doubled my fuel mileage running a negatively charged cell, only 4 minutes 3 or 4 times a day of 12 volt 2 amp current. lol due some weight tests of your cathode when you get some white powder build up on it. Put on scales and heat it up slowly with a torch :) it will lose weight and gain it back when cooling, proving we are dealing with a new energy field. my cathode was 422 grams and it lost 13 grams then gained it back :), pm me if you have any questions.

chimpmunkproof Says:

Sep 24, 2008 - why does everyone touch their cells fingerprints of skin oil = bad production

metalminded Says:

Sep 26, 2008 - you sound like a dimwitt

brianwesley28 Says:

Sep 28, 2008 - Interesting because when I first saw this design, I thought that it reminded me of a capacitor design that I have seen.

GentleManSteve65 Says:

Oct 29, 2008 - Yes I wonder when somebody will make a electrolytic capacitor Hydrogen cell. Meyrs claimed to have made a capacitor cell but he also said you can use ocean water or salt water. That will not work with stainless steal using salt water or ocean water but if you made a electrolytic capacitor then you can use oxidized Aluminum for that kind of cell and that way it will work good with or without electrolytes

brianwesley28 Says:

Oct 29, 2008 - When you mention oxidized aluminum, I assume that you are referring to aluminum oxide? I'll give it some thought.

GentleManSteve65 Says:

Oct 29, 2008 - When Aluminum oxidizes it get a coat of oxidized Aluminum on the outside of the aluminum that protects it from farther Oxidation and acts like a diode and only allows electricity to travel in one direction so it becomes a conductor and a none conductor and when it oxidizes and the bubbles stop forming is when it has oxidized well enough to make the electrolytic capacitor. Some people do not know about this type of capacitor but Aluminum is perfect for it.

ZeroFossilFuel Says:

Oct 30, 2008 - Bare aluminum in contact with water decomposes violently releasing H. BUT, when it comes in contact with water it immediately forms a protective layer of aluminum oxide. KOH dissolves the oxide. That's why it decomposes the Al and releases H. BUT, this microscopic insulating layer would also be PERFECT for creating a step charged electric field without the short circuit we create now using electrolytes like KOH or NaOH. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

GentleManSteve65 Says:

Oct 30, 2008 - Yes my point about Stan meyrs way of not using electrolytes. If people have some impurities in the water it wouldn't bother the cell

futahroid Says:

Nov 16, 2008 - whats an inch get metric cock-knuckle learn to use your meter know what your meter is for learn how your meter works make a bridge meter for fucks sake do some electronics courses before you tell some bullshit oops too late you just showed us you dont know what your doing bummer