Added: Oct 15, 2006
From: bulshin
Duration: 0:38
Tsukamoto Ippon - Shinkyokushin
Channel: Sports
Tags: ippon karate kyokushin shinkyokushin
Rating: 4.47 (15 ratings) Views: 29369' favoriteCount='53 Comments: 17
Philmoscowitz Says:
Jan 8, 2007 - does anyone think kyokushinkai needs to change the rules of its tournaments? if one trains for tournaments like these he may very well get accustomed to fighting without punching to the face, which is not how a real fight would play out. why not give them gloves like the kind they use in Pride or UFC?
KaptajnKold Says:
Jun 7, 2007 - Kyokushinkai karate doesn't have rules. It's a self defense system. Knockdown karate OTOH is a sport and it has rules. Knockdown karate is mainly practiced by kyokushin karatekas, but most tournaments are open to anyone. Conversely, any kyokushin karateka is free to compete in K1 or any other tournament, and indeed many of them do. I hope this helps.
Philmoscowitz Says:
Jun 7, 2007 - thank you. i've observed kyokushin classes, and maybe it was just a coincidence, but they seemed to focus mostly on tournament sparring. it's not just a kyokushin problem. i see the same thing happening in the JKA.
KaptajnKold Says:
Jun 7, 2007 - I think you are right in your observation. I don't really see it as a problem, though. I don't believe that karate has all that much to offer as a personal self defense system to begin with (and I say that as a Kyokushin karateka myself), but I do believe that full contact sparring gives students a more realistic image of their own capacity which helps avoid the dangerous overconfidence exhibited by so many students of different martial arts.
Philmoscowitz Says:
Jun 13, 2007 - that's true--spending a lot of time striking imaginary opponents or holding back all the time in sparring can mislead people into thinking they're prepared for a real fight. btw, what do you think is an effective self defense system?
KaptajnKold Says:
Jun 14, 2007 - In Denmark (where I come from) the Jiu Jitsu curriculum is revised yearly in cooporation with the police and military so as to always emphasise effective defenses against the most common types of street violence. That leads me to believe that Jiu Jitsu is best suited as a self defense system.
Philmoscowitz Says:
Jun 15, 2007 - interesting. much of the police self defense training in the US is derived from karate. it seems the best thing is to learn traditional karate AND a grappling art like jiu jitsu. stan schmidt, the highest ranking non-japanese in the JKA advocates this approach.
michinco Says:
Jul 5, 2007 - shinkyokushin is the strongest karate in the world!! No doubt about it! I am 10000% sure that TSukamoto will beat up everyone in Pride! Silva, Shogun, Arona, and all these Brazilian monkeys!!
Urbanus1337 Says:
Oct 19, 2007 - I've already had the pleasure of fighting tsakumoto, well...actually he just laughed and punched me 1 time. But that was already enough to know his strength.
SultanSaladyn Says:
Nov 8, 2007 - can anyone explain me whats the difference between kyokushin and shinkyokushin karate ?
dragonbut Says:
Dec 4, 2007 - They both have the same rules (same katas as well I think) Kyokushin is IKO1 (under Matsui) and Shinkyokushinkai is IKO2 (under Midori) they changed their name to Shinkyokushinkai about 2 years ago, guess they dont want to live in the shadow of IKO1
kolsyrade Says:
Dec 12, 2007 - Same style, same competition rules. There are no difference really. Its only a political division of the original organization after the founders death in the mid 90ies. Basically they could not agree who the new leader would be.
SultanSaladyn Says:
Dec 16, 2007 - ah ok thank you !
liamgyu Says:
Dec 20, 2007 - you should check out geof thompson to much grappleing can be very unhealthy in a street fight espeshaly in a mob fight
KaptajnKold Says:
Dec 29, 2007 - No doubt, but Jiu-Jitsu taught for self defence purposes (as opposed to competition) is not pure grappling. It emphasises effective kicking and punching as well, as well as a whole bag of "dirty tricks". I'd say it's as effective a system as any, with the qualifier that in the end it comes down to the individual: Of course a world champion of karate is going to win a fight against novice jiu-jitsu practitioner.
tearawa61 Says:
Jan 12, 2008 - There is no difference between Kyokushin Kai and Shin Kyokushin Kai except their names and the heads of their organizations
PerOleLind Says:
Oct 19, 2006 - Whoooh! Tsukamoto is truly a Kyokushin hero! This tournament is Shinkyokushin world cup 2005. It was a SEROIUS fight. Denis Gregoriev had previous to this knock-out hit Tsukamoto severely in the chest. Two Shin-Kyoukushin GIANTS. I will never forget that fight.