deckard9757 Says:

Nov 29, 2008 - yellowocean01, you're either a compulsive liar or frighteningly stupid. Evolution has nothing to do with the origins of the Universe. "Earth couldn't have existed on it's own" doesn't even make sense! The solar system (including the Earth) formed 4.55 billion years ago from accretion of interstellar matter using Newtonian mechanics. Name these "advanced philosophers" you speak of, though I bet you made that up!

yellowocean01 Says:

Nov 29, 2008 - wow deckard9757 and holyfate which is quite of an ironic name since what you mentioned. Deckard9757 why are you such an idiot?! The 20th century science has demonstrated, with certainty, that the universe is not eternal; the universe had a beginning. Actually, mankind has contemplated this issue for millennia, long before science proved a beginning. In all that time, man has conceived of only two possible solutions - either someone made the world, or the world made itself.

yellowocean01 Says:

Nov 29, 2008 - And on that note unless we can demonstrate the world is capable of creating itself, God is the default.

deckard9757 Says:

Nov 29, 2008 - yellowocean, I didn't mention the beginning of the universe, so what are you gtting all cross about? Your final theory is totally wrong and illogical. As I explained in my previous comment. I suggest that you read it properly.

Will2killsum1 Says:

Nov 29, 2008 - Could you fucking morons stop arguing over a youtube message board.

Solzy2004 Says:

Nov 29, 2008 - You sound like you're arguing about people arguing on a message board. Which sounds like you're arguing on a message board. But maybe that's just me.

Solzy2004 Says:

Nov 29, 2008 - You there, on these message boards, who said "there is no such thing as a good or bad life." That statement violates the philosophic principle of non-contradiction because you assume there to be TRUTH -- in that you expect us to accept that what you wrote is a true statement. Yet IN your statement you argue that no one can tell the difference (i.e. that there is no difference) between good and bad. Then how could we tell whether you're making a good or bad argument?

Winthorpej Says:

Nov 29, 2008 - > Could you fucking morons stop arguing over a youtube> message board. Bullshit! On what do you base that statement? Your premise is invalid and derisive! (Couldn't resist. :-] )

Solzy2004 Says:

Nov 29, 2008 - Five Reasons to Believe that God Exists- St. Thomas Aquinas (Don't mean to get serious on you here... mood transfer, mood transfer...) But it's a good youtube video. Cut and paste and learn -- at least some good thinking, whether it's true or not

Taitrnator Says:

Nov 29, 2008 - Well, as far as source citations the bible beats zeitgeist pretty bad. Yes the bible isnt a book of logic. But its a moral book that has lasted for thousands of years. So there has to be something good about it considering it formed most of the laws of western civilization. Not that I agree with the bible 100%, I'm just saying its not garbage.

YogzDaBeatChild Says:

Nov 29, 2008 - BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chris2550525 Says:

Nov 30, 2008 - solzy, it's not just you. Will2kill IS calling himself a moron.

badhairguy Says:

Nov 30, 2008 - "Moral Book"? My morals don't include raping women, killing innocent women and children, persecuting gays, etc.

jakamneziak Says:

Nov 30, 2008 - This is what george is so good at, provoking controversial opinions form people by being controversial himself. The discussions are a vindication of his work, Keep it up George.

Solzy2004 Says:

Nov 30, 2008 - Thank you Taitrnator & Chris255 - Google an introduction to political philosophy ten essays-then order and read PROGRESS OR RETURN: THE CONTEMPORARY CRISIS IN WESTERN CIVILIZATION Also of great interest, in The Rebirth of Classical Political Rationalism, are the essays in Part 3, The Dialogue Between Reason and Revelation Western Civ is based on the tension between Socratic Reason and Biblical Revelation (Athens v. Jerusalem, as they put it). real questions and thought vs sound bites

Chris2550525 Says:

Nov 30, 2008 - He passed away a few months ago.

Chris2550525 Says:

Nov 30, 2008 - Sounds interesting Solzy.

Solzy2004 Says:

Nov 30, 2008 - Thanks Chris255. It IS interesting. Strauss led me to read Platos The Republic, starring my favorite character in the world after J.C., Socrates -- who reduces his interlocutors to the state of aporia. In Plato's dialogue called the 'Meno,' Socrates describes the purgative effect of reducing someone to aporia: it shows someone who merely thought he knew something that he does not in fact know it and instills in him a desire to investigate it.

zrogoszinski Says:

Nov 30, 2008 - he forogt NO IDOL WORSHIP

morganbarry85 Says:

Nov 30, 2008 - no he didn't, watch it again, it was the first one.

zrogoszinski Says:

Nov 30, 2008 - well something doesnt add up. He said the 'first three' are out and we are down to six. Something like that. Whatever, not important

jooraye Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - sykocelldotcom

Sindre1 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - He said 7 :)

02joseph02 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - "thau shall keep your religion to thau self" you heard him christians

DarthRane113 Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - no he said seven you gota listen my frined :) but like you said not important