Added: Jun 29, 2006
From: RBoon
Duration: 3:33
Clip from "The Fog of War" explaining the context of "The Gulf of Tonkin" incident that was used as the excuse for starting the Vietnam "War" --- and that "It didn't happen."
Channel: News
Tags: government lies tonkin vietnam war
Rating: 4.88 (102 ratings) Views: 25465' favoriteCount='200 Comments: 25
Scotty7617 Says:
Jul 5, 2008 - That's bullshit. They were just looking for an excuse to escalate that meaningless war, and the Gulf of Tonkin gave them that excuse.
UnDead483 Says:
Jul 6, 2008 - I hate to tell you this, but politicians aren't that stupid. You don't escalate a war that is going to cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars without some sort of reason. Which was in this case, stopping communism. LBJ and Mcnamara weren't morons!
svintoswe Says:
Jul 6, 2008 - you are fooled, the US are going to war because they whant to own the world...
Scotty7617 Says:
Jul 16, 2008 - No, they're not stupid. That's the worst part. They're very smart. You're absolutely right. They don't escalate the war without a reason, so they decieve the people into believing there's a reason. Vietnam was about war profiteering. Stopping communsism was the bullshit lie that was used to justify it. You think war profiteers care about people's lives or how much taxpayer money is wasted as long as they make a fortune?
Brevinlokai Says:
Jul 21, 2008 - The US government has been hijacked. I fear for the world.
Whisper2771 Says:
Jul 24, 2008 - But you have selective understanding, LBJ decided to go to full fledge combat based on an incident that didnt happen, False Flag Ops needs to be stopped! If you've never seen this docu you should, listen to how he hates the dropping of the A-bombs on Nag & Hiro, He clearly states it was pointless! There were air bombings that took place before 8-4-1945 that decimated Japan. Nag & Hiro was an experiment, a petri-dish! As is this "war"(experiment) in Iraq.
SunshineSuperman999 Says:
Jul 31, 2008 - And, yes, he did do a lot of good as president, which is largely overshadowed by this foolish war based on lies. jfk, yes, but lbj was not a good pres. and who care about his civil rights act? it dosn't make up for the millions killed on his watch.
Scotty7617 Says:
Aug 1, 2008 - Yes, he does say that, but it was the second attack that was used to justify the escalation of the war.
HudsonRand Says:
Aug 9, 2008 - Didn't LBJ's wife's family own a lot of the company that made Bell helicopters?
riceowlex Says:
Aug 15, 2008 - LBJ also presided over the Massacre by Isrealis on the USS Liberty with full knowledge that these men were being murdered.
Siriusluv Says:
Aug 18, 2008 - Politicians do nothing unless someone they 'know' can make a huge profit..then as it is now. May they rot and burn in hell for doing this to people!
familybc146 Says:
Aug 23, 2008 - LBJ? That stinking murderer..... You tube: "USS Liberty Attack - False Flag." And both McNamara and LBJ knew it didn't happen all along.
zenmachinefilms Says:
Aug 25, 2008 - Great documentary, well deserved Oscar winner. Great to see McNamara spill his guts and admit he was wrong all these years later.
Scotty7617 Says:
Aug 27, 2008 - Well, he does admit some of the lies, but he also holds some stuff back, like when he says he can't remember if he authorized the use of agent orange, or when he says he feels responsible for the assassination South Vietnam's president Diem. Of course he feels responsible. He was one of the one of the ones who planned it.
joej12a Says:
Sep 6, 2008 - have fun getting your shit pushed in in hell robert mcnamara.you are the scum of the earth.
erby1kabogey Says:
Sep 11, 2008 - My uncle volunteered and proudly served in Vietnam only to be used as a guinea pig for Agent Orange and to come back a junkie! So fuck this piece of shit government! I wish I believed in Hell so I could take some sort of comfort that they'd all be there!
Swazi4 Says:
Sep 18, 2008 - Well he and Kennedy didn't want the SV generals to kill Diem, but they wanted him out of power so they could take control of SV more than what Diem was allowing them.
Swazi4 Says:
Sep 18, 2008 - You do know that LBJ was pretty much carrying out JFK's administration right? No matter who was president, we would've waged the Vietnam War. The coup on President Diem which was helped by JFK will tell you that.
Scotty7617 Says:
Sep 19, 2008 - Not necessarily. Even if Kennedy wasn't going to pull the US out, there's no guarantee he would have escalated it. Kennedy had said he would not let Vietnam become America's war, and that regardless of what support the US provided, in the end it had to be the Vietnamese who did the fighting because it was their war.
beatlebonzo Says:
Sep 28, 2008 - This war was legally a non-starter.So Johnson took a chapter from Hitlers propaganda plans and falsified a sea attack to whip up the public's sense of outrage.For Adolf,the plan was to burn down the German Parliament - AKA The Reichstag. Find some mentally ill patsy who is willing to "confess" - preferably a Jewish immigrant so that the Germans will buy into Hitler's racial hatred and get them ready for war. This formula seems to work well and so other countries have copied it-ie,Gulf of Tonken
alexyhcrana Says:
Oct 2, 2008 - good point
funkyalfonso Says:
Oct 30, 2008 - Ladybird Johnson was the major shareholder in Brown annd Root; a construction company that built Cam Rahn Bay and much else iin Vietnam. Brown and Root is a Haliburton company. Dick Cheney is just carrying on a tradition that goes back decades.
JackJivewriter Says:
Nov 17, 2008 - There is a difference between escalation and invasion which you clearly don't understand. Hiltler waged invaded without provocation and staged the 'attack' of Poland by taking a criminal, suiting him up as a Polish soldier and shooting him. US soldiers were already fighting and dying in Vietnam to begin with. There was ONE attack on a destroyer and the other attack didn't happen. They were right once and wrong once if you kept watching the film.
thetacogangsta Says:
Nov 28, 2008 - thats fucked up...its history repeating itself....some tragedy aoccurs and we go to war to kill more people....just like 911 and i wouldnt be surprised if 911 was actually a inside job orchestrated to give usa a reson to go to war.
UnDead483 Says:
Jul 3, 2008 - No one is denying that. But you have the advantage of 20/20 hindsight. LBJ and Mcnamara had no such advantage. Given the circumstances, the decision they made has merit.