dussuh Says:

Oct 3, 2008 - this man knew it all even in the fifties. He knew it and he warned them.

randomusernamemygod Says:

Oct 4, 2008 - atowersshaw everything this man has written and said has gone right over your head. He is warning about the dangers or using the military as an economy and for profit.

atowersshaw Says:

Oct 4, 2008 - I'm afraid you don't understand. If you can actually cite anywhere Ike talks about "for profit military" I will defer to you. Anybody who has read about Eisenhower and his presidency to any degree knows the speech was geared towards what tactics Kennedy had used in the '60 campaign. JFK had been saying there wasn;t enough money being spent on the military, Eisenhower had been asleep at the switch, there was a "Missle Gap". This was part of the repudiation of typical Kennedy crap.

randomusernamemygod Says:

Oct 4, 2008 - "If you can actually cite anywhere Ike talks about "for profit military" I will defer to you" The fact he is talking about the Military-Industrial-Complex is a the biggest give away if you know what it is. Soviet Union was far ahead on missle technology, Eisenhower pressed to close the gap actually.

atowersshaw Says:

Oct 4, 2008 - The Military Industiral complex is not "a for profit" entity. The warning was, and is, the exact opposite, there is no profit, just a sinkhole for taxpayers. He's talking about not going into deficit spending because people are saying the sky is falling. The Soviets had superior rocketry in terms of power, but things like guidance, payload capability, they were years behind, and the Russians still are.

atowersshaw Says:

Oct 4, 2008 - Further, Ike knew all this space program nonsense was just that after Sputnik. There is a reason there was no real "Crisis" even the Suez he handled very deftly. If you mean lobbyists pressing for military spending, then yes he was warning about that, but the original point I was responding to, was the claim Ike was somehow anti-military and a "dove", he was adamant about defecits The Ambrose biography is a good place to start, and then some of his own writings give a fuller picture

randomusernamemygod Says:

Oct 4, 2008 - Wrong. His concern is not about over spending or under spending but the power of the military being mis-used and influenced wrongly. The military industrial complex is a proft entity the facr it doesnt exist without the commercial sector and can be driven by individual interests. It took the US many years to get ahead of the Soviets in guidence and payload. The Russians had created the very first ICBM's. Eisenhower in fact supported the projects to create rivals to the soviers.

randomusernamemygod Says:

Oct 4, 2008 - "If you mean lobbyists pressing for military spending" What? just watch this video again then fully research what he refers to the Military Industrial Complex. Eisenhower being anti-military made Nuclear weaponary a priority to the military, would give military support to any middle east country, which he did and wanted to aid the French in Vietnam with military support or any country threatened by Communism.

stevenson52 Says:

Oct 7, 2008 - Can someone, please, upload the entire speech?

dussuh Says:

Oct 9, 2008 - Hes not talking about coupes or militairy regimes. Hes talking about the costs it takes to the american tax payer too keep the militairy industry alive. We pay tax money so they can build bombs and they use wars get more budgets.

randomusernamemygod Says:

Oct 11, 2008 - Were does he say that? No where the fact he goes into great lengths about the militry industrial complex something he defined.

Anonologist Says:

Oct 15, 2008 - Eisenhower felt the CIA and the contractors were getting out of hand. CIA had begun to direct policy and report what it wanted to the president. This was a problem later for JFK. Truman did not originally support JFK, but a week after Kennedy was killed he wrote an article about the murder in which he said he regretted taking part in creating the CIA and saw that it had gotten out of hand. Had JFK been successful in reigning in CIA and the FED the world would be better off today.

Nuclearchaoss Says:

Oct 19, 2008 - F-Cam - MSG me on MSN. ID is in my profile. v

leftbehind81 Says:

Oct 23, 2008 - How did the american people not see this coming from this speach. I mean did they not even hear the scary background music.

sharperimage1234567 Says:

Oct 24, 2008 - We didn't listen.

68Led Says:

Oct 31, 2008 - can you post us some location reference of that article please

LtStarkiller Says:

Nov 5, 2008 - So Tony Stark is really the bad guy!?

JerryX68 Says:

Nov 6, 2008 - . . . and Eisenhower wasn't exactly a leftie!

FaultyClockwerk Says:

Nov 13, 2008 - Amazingly prescient.

kenjams Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - how profetic

truthsabre7 Says:

Nov 28, 2008 - Even spiritual?! Wow.

janebusby Says:

Dec 1, 2008 - FOX NEWS -The Spin Zone -Informers for the Neo-Nazis -Corporate Politics keeps us rich -The Australian's doing crowd control -Inciting war because it sells more -More profit in oil than in solar collecting foil -A cog in the Military Industrial Complex (1961) -Republican MEGAPHONE! -Right wing extremism -Fascism at its purest - 1 World, 1 Dream, 1 Perspective -Youll die unless you take the pill from our ad break -Fair & Balanced?! ..No, Fear & Outrage!! -Leading the Sheeple

ophachew Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - Hopefully Bush will tell America about the Media Industrial Complex in his farewell speech.

kusari86 Says:

Dec 3, 2008 - I believe Kennedy touched on that already , In his speech to the American Newspaper Publishers Association

ophachew Says:

Dec 3, 2008 - I mean the Mass controlled extreme left-wing Industrial Media Complex.